Comments on: Movie Sites -vs- The Trades: If You Can’t Beat ‘Em, Boycott ‘Em

By: Nionix

Nionix — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 02:37:15 +0000

After awhile, this story kinda got to me (Also, James, you got linked on a couple stories to this post! Awesome.) and after the bullshit Batman rumors, I threw up a stupid post on my own site.

Basically, fuck blogs that want to be taken seriously but ejaculate stupid fanboy casting rumors all over the internet.

By: Dave

Dave — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:52:08 +0000

Bottom line is that with the saturation of information that already exists on the net, I doubt that any boycott will affect anyone other than the small number of people who run websites with a large enough following. The general public doesn’t give a crap and this will by and large not affect anyone’s movie going habit, meaning the studios have little to no vested interest in the matter.

Business as usual.

By: Nionix

Nionix — Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:05:36 +0000

I lol’d. If they decide to boycott, go right ahead. As it turns out, if they can’t pull stories from Variety/Hollywood Reporter.. well, they won’t have too many big scoops.

By: Chris Gopher

Chris Gopher — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:48:31 +0000

Shit, a different Chris has shown up. Time for a name change. LOL.

By: James

James — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:34:18 +0000

Chris – I believe it would be impossible to speak on this topic without speaking with some level of generality. I probably should have been more specific in my language and limit the lasso to “those who are boycotting” as well as “sites similar in style and readership size as those that are boycotting”. Of course, there will still be some innocents even among those generalities, but them’s the breaks. Expecting Variety to keep a list of sites that they will credit and a list that they won’t, considering the hundreds, if not thousands of blogs that reference the news they collected, is unreasonable at best. The current system works. Variety should continue to provide the movie community with 90% of its casting news and in exchange the movie blog/website community should sit down, swallow their collective pride, and shut up when Variety occasional gets one wrong from our camp.

In all I think the attention Variety is getting for this, and will continue to get, is not doing movie websites any favors. If you want to take down the big dog, act like a bigger dog, outscoop them – make them irrelevant – things have been marching that direction for years anyway. Don’t bitch when the bigger dog doesn’t throw you a bone, take the bone. It’s all very schoolyard, in’it.

By: Dave

Dave — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:21:15 +0000

Chris, you shouldn’t judge people at all. James was talking about the major sites, not all of them. The on-line film community is a far different place now than it was 10 years ago. It’s diluted by so many different voices all pretty much saying the same thing. Collider may get the scoop, but they are not 1/10th of what the old Coming Attractions used to be. No one is. Scoops are nothing special anymore because the internet is saturated with information.

He was also saying that without the trades, movie sites wouldn’t be what they are today. I’m not trying to defend the trades but certain “smaller” sites use just as many questionable tactics as the ones they are “boycotting.”

Bottom line is that at the end of the day, movie sites really *do* need to get over themselves because I don’t see a one coming up with solutions to gas prices, foreign intervention, peak oil, the drug war, etc. You can make the response that their purpose is not to talk about these things, but that’s entirely the point. Because they’re not actually disseminating information that is actually, you know, *useful* to people, they need to shut up about how important they are because they’re, you know, NOT!

By: Grundy

Grundy — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 03:03:09 +0000

Yoi know, after the Collider 300 scoop. Fuck the trades.

By: Chris

Chris — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:33:18 +0000

I really disagree with you. Sure there are plently of sites that rip people off. But to lump all the blogs in one basket is wrong. You should judge people on a case by case basis and just not pass a banket judgement on everyone involved.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:02:28 +0000

I remember when Variety’s EIC Peter Bart said bloggers were smelly anarchists with pale skin.

Tell me, if you had that world view, would you be in line to jerk off a bunch of sweaty fanboys?

Hey, it was either that or just a base, “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA” in response to a blog boycott.